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Muy buenas artistas, va dirigido sobre todo a los fans Napoleonicos que somos varios por aqui... Estoy haciendo un wargame de la epoca y me gustaria ir recopìlando todo lo posible de Quotes de personajes de la epoca, frases celebres y curiosas.... sobre todos los temas, politicos, militares... economicos....

Es un card driven game y me gustaria incluir en la gran mayoria de las cartas (o todasa ser posible) quotes de de la epoca. Tambien habra un mazo de batalla, y en estas seran sobre tacticas y estrategias de batalla...

os pongo un ejemplo,

Grand Battery:

"To stem the Austrian attack, Napoleon created a Grand Battery of 112 cannon which poured shot into the advancing Austrian formations."

Last Charge!

" Kellermann had put himself in motion as soon as he heard the firing. He rushed upon that formidable column, penetrated it from left to right, and broke it into several bodies."


No hay prisa ninguna, segun os vayan ocurriendo cosas id posteando. Os lo agradeceria un monton ;). Saludos y mil gracias!
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¿Tienen que ser en ingles?
Las verdaderas conquistas, las únicas que no producen ningún pesar, son las que se realizan contra la ignorancia.
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nop, ya me encargaria de traducirlas ;). Si son en ingles mejor pero no pasa nada
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A lo mejor puedes encontrar este libro por ahí:

http://www.napoleon-series.org/reviews/ ... tions.html

Algunas tras un googleo, por si alguna no la tienes:

Duke of Wellington 1769 - 1852

August 29, 1810
"As Lord Chesterfield said of the generals of his day, 'I only hope that when the enemy reads the list of their names, he trembles as I do.'"
(Usually quoted as: "I don't know what effect these men will have upon the enemy, but, by God, they frighten me.")

1815 - The Battle of Waterloo
"Up Guards and at them!" (later denied by Wellington)

"The battle of Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton." (Oral tradition)

"All the business of war, and indeed all the business of life, is to endeavor to find out what you don't know by what you do; that's what I called 'guessing what was at the other side of the hill.'"

"Next to a battle lost, the greatest misery is a battle gained."

November 2, 1831
"I used to say of him (Napoleon) that his presence on the field made the difference of forty thousand men."

November 4, 1831
"Ours (our army) is composed of the scum of the earth - the mere scum of the earth."

On seeing the first Reformed Parliament:
"I never saw so many shocking bad hats in my life."

Replying to a blackmail threat:
"Publish and be damned." (attributed)


Quotes of Alexander Suvarov

* The ditch isn't deep, the wall isn't high; fling yourself into the ditch, leap over the wall, charge with the bayonet, strike, chase, take prisoner. Storm.
- principles of war.

* The bullet is a mad thing; only the bayonet knows what it is about.

* Fire seldom, but accurately. Thrust the bayonet with force. The bullet misses, the bayonet doesn't. The bullet's an idiot, the bayonet's a fine chap. Stab once and throw the Turk off the bayonet. Bayonet another, bayonet a third. A real warrior will bayonet half a dozen and more. Keep a bullet in the barrel. If three should run at you bayonet the first, shoot the second and lay the third out with your bayonet. This isn't common, but you haven't time to reload.

* It is very difficult to do one's duty. I was considered a barbarian because at the storming of the Praga 7000 people were killed. Europe says I am a monster. I myself have read this in the papers, but I would have liked to talk to people about this and ask them: is it not better to finish a war with the death of 7000 people rather than to drag it on and kill 100,000.
- After the assault on the fortified Warsaw suburb of Praga in 1794.

* Strike at the enemy with humane treatment as effectively as with weapons.

* The details depend on the circumstances, the judgement, the skill and on the bravery of the man in command.

* The officers know that I myself am not ashamed to work at this. Suvarov was major and adjutant and everything down to corporal. I myself looked into everything and could teach everybody.

* Every man passed through my hands and he was told that nothing more remained for him to know, if only he did not forget what he had learned. Thus he was given confidence in himself, the foundations of bravery.

* Otherwise we should have wasted all our time in discussion, diplomatical, tactical, enigmatical; they would have smothered me and the enemy would have settled our arguments by smashing up our tactics.
- On councils of war.

* The ability to assess a situation at a glance, to know how to select the site for a camp, when and how to march and where to attack.

* Speed. Quick grasp. Shock.

* The more comfort the less courage there is.

* To me death is better than the defensive.

* According to my custom … I was present at the attack near the monastery of Svyanty Kryzh, but held my tongue, not wishing in the least to detract from the praiseworthy, skillful and brave commands of my subordinates. And there is nobody more terrible than the desperate.
- 1799 campaign in Switzerland.

* I was cut off and surrounded. Night and day we attacked the enemy, in front and in the rear, captured his guns, which we were obliged to throw off the precipices owing to the shortage of pack animals, and inflicted on him losses four times heavier than ours. Everywhere we forced our way through as victors.
- 1799 campaign in Switzerland.

* When the enemy is driven back, we have failed and we he is cut off, encircled and dispersed, we have succeeded.

* With severity kindness is needed, or else severity is tyranny. I am strict in maintaining the health of the soldiers and a true sense of good conduct; kind soldierly strictness and then general brotherhood. To me strictness by whim would be tyranny.

* Fight the enemy with the weapons he lacks.

* No battle can be won in the study and theory without practice is dead.

* Break through without stopping. The head must not wait for the tail. Commanders of units are not to wait to report, but are to act on their own initiative with speed and judgement. If the Turks ask for quarter, give it.

* He who is afraid is half beaten.

* Fire opens the gates of victory.

* Rule fortune.

* Permit me, your highness, to report that heroes are to be found also in the lower ranks.
- After the battle of Kinburn vs the Turks.

* There is an enemy greater than the hospital - the damned fellow who "doesn't know." The hint dropper, riddle poser, the deceiver, the word spinner, the prayer skimper, the two-faced, the mannered, the incoherent. The fellow who "doesn't know" has caused a great deal of harm. One is ashamed to talk about him. Arrest for the officer who "doesn't know" and house arrest for the field or general officer.

* Genoa ... battle .... forward!

* The safest way of achieving victory is to seek it among the enemy's battalions.

* No offense must go unpunished, for nothing can cause the men so much harm as lax discipline.

* Measured military punishment, together with a short and clear explanation of the offense, touches the ambitious soldier more than brutality which drives him to despair.

* The science of winning ...

* The military virtues are: bravery in the soldier, courage in the officer, valour in the general, but guided by the principles or order and discipline, dominated by vigilance and foresight.

* Never pull up during an attack.

* (The balance of rest and activity, the tricks to keep up the momentum) With this you get speed and the men don't get tired. The enemy reckons we're 60 miles away ... Suddenly we're on him like a cloudburst. His head whirls. Attack! That's why we came, that's why God sent us. Cavalry! Charge! Cut down, stab, chase, don't let them get away.

* Die for the Virgin, for your mother the Empress, for the royal family. The Church will pray to God for the dead. The survivor has honour and glory!

* Don't hurt civilians, they give us food and drink. A soldier is not a footpad.

* That's all right ... the greater the enemy the more they will fall over one another and the easier it will be for us to cut through. In any case they're not numerous enough to darken the sun for us.

* Be frank with your friends, temperate in your requirements and disinterested in conduct. Bear an ardent zeal for the service of your sovereign, love true fame, distinguish ambition from pride and vainglory, learn to love and forgive the faults of others and never forgive your own ...

* Love the soldier and he will love you. That is the secret.

* Learn to profit from local circumstances.

* Remember that victory depends on the legs. The hands are only the instruments of victory.

* Nothing but the offensive. Speed in marches, swiftness. Methodism is not needed. Full authority to the commanding general. Attack the enemy and hit him in the field. Lose no time in sieges ... take fortresses chiefly by assaults or open force. Never divide forces for security of different points. If the enemy went around them so much the better ... he approaches in order to be defeated. Never occupy yourself with vain manouevres.
- On his plans for the 1799 campaign in Italy.

* A sense of vocation is the greatest virtue of the military man.

* Only pursuit destroys a running enemy.

* Do not delay in the attack. When the foe has been split off and cut down, pursue him immediately and give him no time to assemble or form up ... spare nothing. With regard for difficulties, pursue the enemy day and night until he has been annihilated.

* Pursue to the last man to the Adda and throw the remains in the river.
- during the 1799 campaign in Italy.

* A strong pursuit, give no time for the enemy to think. Take advantage of victory, uproot him, cut off his escape.

* In cases of obstacles arising don't be too distracted by them. Time is more valuable than anything else - one must know how to save it.

* A reconnaissance? I don't need one. They're only necessary for the timid and forewarn the enemy. If you really want to find the enemy you'll find him without them. Bayonets, cold arms, attack, punch - these are my reconnaissances.

* All reports should be written clearly, precisely, as far as possible avoiding any inaccuracy, length or beauty of expression, in order not to cloud the thought.

* Never sound the retreat. Never. Warn the men that if they hear it, it is only a ruse on the part of the enemy.

* Perish yourself, but rescue your comrade.

* One need only be on one's guard against the bottomless pit of systematic rules.

* In military practice one must plan quickly and carry on without delay, so as to give the enemy no time to collect himself.

* I work in minutes, not hours.

* Large staffs - small victories.

* Subordination is the mother of discipline, or the art of war.

* To astonish is to vanquish.

* It is bad to lack good fortune, but it is a misfortune to lack talent. The fortune of war is on the side of the soldier of talent.

* Defeat the enemy with cold steel, bayonets, swords and pikes. Don't slow down during an attack. When the enemy is broken, shattered, then pursue him at once and don't give him time either to collect or reform. If he surrenders spare him, only order him to throw down his arms. During the attack call on the enemy to surrender. Spare nothing, don't think of your labours. Pursue the enemy night and day so long as anything is left to be destroyed.

* "Help, danger" and other figments of the imagination are all right for old women who are afraid to get off the stove because they may break their legs and for lazy luxurious people and blockheads - for miserable self-protection which, in the end, whether good or bad in fact, always passes for bravery with the storytellers.

* Training is light and lack of training is darkness.

* A trained man is worth three untrained. That's too little, say six, six is too little - say 10 to one.

* The soldiers like training provided it is carried out sensibly.

* Victory is achieved only through the combination of courage and military art.

* Complaints have been brought to my attention that the infantry have got their feet wet. That is the fault of the weather. The march was made in the service of the most mighty monarch. Only women, dandies and lazy bones need good weather.

* The winds and waves are always on the side of the ablest navigators.

* Activeness is the most important of all attributes of the military …Hurry, your excellency! Money is dear; human life still dearer, but time dearest of all.
- during the 1799 Campaign in Italy.



Quotes of Horatio Nelson



* I could not tread these perilous paths in safety, if I did not keep a saving sense of humor.


* Our country will, I believe, sooner forgive an officer for attacking an enemy than for letting it alone.
3 May 1794, the attack on Bastin.

* I cannot, if I am in the field of glory, be kept out of sight: wherever there is anything to be done, there Providence is sure to direct my steps.
1797.

* The Business of the English commander-in-chief being first to bring an enemy fleet to battle on the most advantageous terms to himself, (I mean that of laying his ships close on board the enemy, as expeditiously as possible); and secondly to continue them there until the business is decided.

* It is warm work; and this day may be the last to any of us at a moment. But mark you! I would not be elsewhere for thousands.
- at the Battle of Copenhagen.

* Desperate affairs require desperate measures.

* Something must be left to chance; nothing is sure in a sea fight above all.
- Before Trafalgar.

* My character and good name are in my own keeping. Life with disgrace is dreadful. A glorious death is to be envied. - 10 March 1795.

* If a man consults whether he is to fight, when he has the power in his own hands, it is certain that his opinion is against fighting.
- August 1801.

* If I had been censured every time I have run my ship, or fleets under my command, into great danger, I should have long ago been out of the Service and never in the House of Peers.
March 1805.

* There is no way of dealing with the Frenchman but to knock him down - to be civil to them is to be laughed at. Why they are enemies!
11 Jan 1798 after surrender of Capua.

* Duty is the great business of a sea officer; all private considerations must give way to it, however painful it may be.
- letter to Frances Nisbet.

* Firstly you must always implicitly obey orders, without attempting to form any opinion of your own regarding their propriety. Secondly, you must consider every man your enemy who speaks ill of your king; and thirdly you must hate a Frenchman as you hate the devil.
- to a midshipman in 1793 aboard the Agamemnon.

* Thank God I have done my duty.
- 21 October 1805, while dying.

* England Expects that every man will do his duty.
- before Trafalgar.

* Now I can do no more. We must trust to the Great Disposer of all events and the justice of our cause. I thank God for this opportunity of doing my duty.
- just after his England expects signal.

* First gain the victory and then make the best use of it you can.
- before the battle of the Nile 1 August 1797.

* Recollect that you must be a seaman to be an officer and also that you cannot be a good officer without being a gentleman.

* My greatest happiness is to serve my gracious King and Country and I am envious only of glory; for if it be a sin to covet glory I am the most offending soul alive.
- letter to Lady Hamilton, 1800.

* The Neapolitan officers did not lose much honour, for God knows they had not much to lose - but they lost all they had.
- 1798 after French rout of Neapolitan army.

* The bravest man feels an anxiety 'circa praecordia' as he enters the battle, but he dreads disgrace more.

* Unfit as my ship was, I had nothing left for the honour of our country but to sail, which I did in two hours afterward.

* When I am without orders and unexpected occurrences arrive I shall always act as I think the honour and glory of my King and Country demand. But in case signals can neither be seen or perfectly understood, no captain can do very wrong if he places his ship alongside that of the enemy.

* Gentlemen, when the enemy is committed to a mistake we must not interrupt him too soon.

* Never break the neutrality of a port or place, but never consider as neutral any place from whence an attack is allowed to be made.

* To obey orders is all perfection. To serve my King and destroy the French, I consider as the great order of all, from which little ones spring; and if one of these militate against it (for who can tell exactly at a distance), I go back and obey the great order and object, to down - down with the damned French villains! My blood boils at the name of a Frenchman! Down, down with the French! … is my constant prayer.

* I have always been a quarter of an hour before my time and it has made a man of me.

* My seamen are now what British seamen ought to be … almost invincible; they really mind shot no more than peas.

* Time is everything; five minutes make the difference between victory and defeat.

* Buonaparte has often made his boast that our fleet would be worn out by keeping the sea and that his was kept in order and increasing by staying in port; but know he finds, I fancy, if Emperors hear the truth, that his fleet suffers more in a night than ours in one year.

* I cannot command winds and weather.

* Let me alone: I have yet my legs and one arm. Tell the surgeon to make haste and his his instruments. I know I must lose my right arm, so the sooner it's off the better.
- after being wounded during the attack on Santa Cruz de Tenerife, 24 July 1797.

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* He who is afraid is half beaten.
- Field Marshal Prince Alexander Suvarov

* Peace, above all things, is to be desired, but blood must sometimes be spilled to obtain it on equable and lasting terms.
- General Andrew Jackson

* The wisdom of man never yet contrived a system of taxation that would operate with perfect equality.
- General Andrew Jackson

* Heaven will be no heaven to me if I do not meet my wife there.
- General Andrew Jackson

* Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defence and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.
- General Andrew Jackson

* One man with courage makes a majority.
- General Andrew Jackson

* It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word.
- General Andrew Jackson

* Elevate them guns a little lower.
- General Andrew Jackson at New Orleans

* Now, gentlemen, let us do something today which the world may talk of hereafter.
- Admiral Cuthbert Collingwood before Trafalgar

* I don't care how they dress so long as they mind their fighting.
- Sir Thomas Picton on his mens' poor dress standards.

Bueno, las de Jackson se han colado en el copia/pega. Pero molan, casi todas.
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Hay una cojonuda de Murat.

Por lo visto justo antes de una carga de las suyas, miró a su alrededor entornando los ojillos y con un fulgor -inédito - de inteligencia en la mirada, dijo:

Tengo gases, caballeros. (En francés).

Algo así como: Il a pedettes, monsieurs.

Y se lanzó colina abajo caracoleando las crines.

Peziozo!!!!.
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"Un buen general puede ser vencido pero nunca sorprendido" Napoleón
"Victory is not a name strong enugh for such a scene" Nelsón tras la batalla del Nilo.
"Another such battle would ruin us" Wellington tras la batalla de la Albuera
"From Napoleón to Louis XVIII. My good brother, there is no need to send any more troops. I have enough" Escrito en una pared por un parisino anonimo.
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Kal escribió:Hay una cojonuda de Murat.

Por lo visto justo antes de una carga de las suyas, miró a su alrededor entornando los ojillos y con un fulgor -inédito - de inteligencia en la mirada, dijo:

Tengo gases, caballeros. (En francés).

Algo así como: Il a pedettes, monsieurs.

Y se lanzó colina abajo caracoleando las crines.

Peziozo!!!!.
Eso debió ser en Eylau, no?
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Muy buenas todas, mas mas :)
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fremen escribió:
Kal escribió:Hay una cojonuda de Murat.

Por lo visto justo antes de una carga de las suyas, miró a su alrededor entornando los ojillos y con un fulgor -inédito - de inteligencia en la mirada, dijo:

Tengo gases, caballeros. (En francés).

Algo así como: Il a pedettes, monsieurs.

Y se lanzó colina abajo caracoleando las crines.

Peziozo!!!!.
Eso debió ser en Eylau, no?
Me lo he inventado, un poco. Conociendo a Murat.... :oops:
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Bromas aparte.

Una frase de Ney en Eylau: "Quel massacre!. Et sans resultat."
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Esta ultima va para un evento de carta si o si :)....

Una k me ha encantado siempre y supongo k incluire... Jervis al almirantazgo :

"I do not say, my Lords, that the French will not come. I say only they will not come by sea".

Y esta de Jorge IV cuando se entero k habia muerto Napoleon tb tiene su akel...

"Majesty, your worst enemy has died". In front of this, George IV asked: "What has happened to my wife?"
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Eh, no os toméis a broma lo de Jorge IV y su esposa. Fue una crisis institucional de tres pares de colleonnes. El odio mutuo que se profesaban fue sabiamente enfocado por ella, que hizo un montaje populista-victimista a lo Lady Di que le salió de maravilla (para que veáis que no hay nada nuevo bajo el sol). Sólo falló que, prolongado en el tiempo, dicho montaje gasta mucho y, al final, la gente acabó harta de la situación y dejó a Jorgito hacer lo que le salió de sus Graciosas Narices.

Para más detalles, consultad esta obra imprescindible:

Paul Johnson, El Nacimiento del Mundo Moderno. El mejor análisis del periodo 1815-1848 que se ha escrito, pleno de erudición, sentido del humor y enseñanzas para nuestros tiempos... Ya en aquella época se decía que había que invertir en Brasil, "el país del futuro" :mrgreen:
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