Panzer Battles: Kursk

[Gonzalo]

No te3 preocupes Erwin el punto G de Edipo es facil: justo en el medio y por detras!!, como a el/ella le gusta

[EDIPO]

Ojal dice.

Jajaja.:

Gonzyboy, gonzyboy...¿dónde ves la preocupación de Erwin en esta quote?

G4...Tocado y hundido!!

Procura usar esta vez aceite que no sea de colza para engrasarte...la última vez parecías una ortiga con patas miamor....

[nomada_squadman45]

Punta de lanza, donde la gente conecta, enchufate al trenecito de la alegria CHUUU CHUUUU (hogar de la liga mundial universal del teto)

A mi lo de la campaña no me preocupa si se pueden crear escenarios largos sin problemas, en el fondo las campañas con escenarios enlazados... no digo que no pero no me emocionan.

[EDIPO]

Pero ¿se tiene estimación de la salida? ¿Al menos sabemos si es para este año o entre pitos y flautas es para el que viene?

[nomada_squadman45]

"Very soon" marca registrada

Decian que en este mes... o al menos eso daban a entender, realmente estan con los ultimos testeos aunque en las ultimas semanas a raiz del hilo en the blitz han tocado algunas cosas por observaciones de la gente como la vulnerabilidad de la infanteria sobre carros o por ejemplo a raiz de un "tocapelotas" cambiaron la "Battalion Identification naming convention" para hacerla mas de facil entendimiento

Yo apunto a la ultmia semana del mes, les doy un margen de 2 semanas para arreglar los flecos antes de enviarles al señor Lobo a decirles que dejen de chuparse las *****

[Gonzalo]

No hables de chupar!! Que Edipo se nos descontrola !!!

[EDIPO]

¿Este mes?

Gonzy no seas pesada, ya se que pasado mañana, 14, es nuestro día....habrá regalito...

[nomada_squadman45]

Love is in the air nananana love is in the air nananana

A ver si dan alguna pistita mas, yo apunto a la ultima semana para darles la siguiente de retoques, la semana pasada estaban currando sobre la ultima version que les enviaron, esta han estado probando los cambios que metieron por observaciones de la gente asi que imagino que en este fin de semana implementaran los cambios y la siguiente los testearan en bloque y la ultima semana de mes pues podrian sacar el juego el viernes y dejar 2-3 dias para revisiones.

Esto son mis pajas mentales pero cuando se habla de very soon para mi se anda por debajo del mes, aun se puede hablar de semanas y no solo dias.

[nomada_squadman45]

Mas madera!!!!

Division de rifles sovietica

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Y portada del juego, al menos la imagen que van a usar.

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Un tanto generica pero bastante explicita... verano, 251 modelo D...

[nomada_squadman45]

Por cierto, esta confirmado, dos semanas, dicho el viernes pasado asi que tendremos el juego en febrero.

Strela escribio el 14

"I keep telling you two weeks..... and two weeks from now is still February!!! Helmet Smile"

Asi que o esta semana o la siguiente... aunque creo que sera mas bien la ultima del mes, el viernes para mas cachondeo

Otra cosa mas, se ha cambiado una de esas pequeñas grandes cosas que fastidiaban en los juegos de Tiller, las unidades combinadas ahora no tendra +++ si no el [numero de unidades combinadas] en el panel de unidades, no solo se vera con dar boton derecho sobre ellas.

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[EDIPO]

Por cierto, esta confirmado, dos semanas, dicho el viernes pasado asi que tendremos el juego en febrero.

Strela escribio el 14

"I keep telling you two weeks..... and two weeks from now is still February!!! Helmet Smile"

Asi que o esta semana o la siguiente... aunque creo que sera mas bien la ultima del mes, el viernes para mas cachondeo

Otra cosa mas, se ha cambiado una de esas pequeñas grandes cosas que fastidiaban en los juegos de Tiller, las unidades combinadas ahora no tendra +++ si no el [numero de unidades combinadas] en el panel de unidades, no solo se vera con dar boton derecho sobre ellas.

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Al caer.... Trankimazines on para el interin!!

[nomada_squadman45]

Juas estan que lo regalan!!! informacion por un tubo...

Por partes:

1-listado de la documentacion que se podra descargar gratis, vamos como en el resto de titulos via Tiller.

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Panzer Battles User Manual (~100 pages)
Getting Started Guide (25 pages)
FAQ & Designers Notes (80 pages)
Planning map pack (18 large scale maps - see a small example in the next post)
Visual Order of Battle (~60 pages and beautiful!)
Game map at zoom level 2 with units (42mb JPG file)
Game map at zoom level 2 without units (42mb JPG file)

2-han subido descripciones de algunos escenarios con un mapa para orientarse

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#0708_01 Voronezh Front - July 8: While the Cats Away... Turns : 23
Teterevino South, South West of Prokhorovka: July 8th, 1943. (Scenario Size: Army. Head to Head or Team Play, Soviet Human vs German AI) General Oberst Hermann Hoth was frustrated. The II SS Panzerkorps had penetrated beyond the second Soviet defensive line, but neither the III nor XXXXVIII Panzerkorps had kept pace. To make matters worse, nowhere had the Soviets been decisively destroyed, enemy units had been pushed back and displaced but rarely had formations been surrounded and decimated. Hoth ordered both Leibstandarte and Das Reich to detach their Panzergruppes and attack North West to assist XXXXVIII Panzerkorps advance and hopefully trap a significant portion of General Lieutenant Mikhail Katukov's 1st Tank Army. Unbeknownst to the Germans, Voronezh Front's commander, General Nikolai Fyodorovich Vatutin was trying to manoeuvre four Tank Corps to attack II SS Panzerkorps extended right flank and push through the German lines trapping the SS in his own encirclement. Fortune smiled upon the Soviets as they prepared the 600 tanks of 2nd, 2nd Guards, 5th Guards and 10th Tank Corps to attack the extended 25 kilometre long right flank of the II SS Panzerkorps that would be bereft of its own armour. The biggest challenge for the Soviet tankers was the less than eight hours that they were given to prepare Vatutin's first big counter thrust.



#0708_02 Teterevino North - Franz's Excellent Adventure. Turns : 8
Teterevino North, South West of Prokhorovka: July 8th, 1943. (Scenario Size: Battalion. Either Side vs AI or Head to Head) SS-Unterscharführer Franz Staudegger and SS-Sturmmann Rolf Schamp's Tigers had not joined the rest of Leibstandarte's Panzer Regiment due to track and chassis damage. The two vehicles were mobile, but only just and had been left behind in Teterevino North with a company from Das Reich to expedite repairs. Colonel Grigory Yakovlevich Andriushchenko's 183rd Tank Brigade was in the vanguard of 10th Tank Corp's push to hit the SS 'on the nose'. Vatutin was trying to coordinate four Tank Corps to hit the extended German Eastern flank. 10th Tank Corps was the northernmost armored formation and was the first into action. Unfortunately 183rd Tank Brigade arrived piecemeal which allowed the Tigers and supporting troops to handle the Soviet Brigade without being completely overwhelmed. Staudegger's command was so successful that he was awarded the Knights Cross for the twenty two tanks his Tiger destroyed in the engagement. Coupled with the other Russian tanks lost to both Schamp and the Panzer Grenadiers, 183rd Tank Brigade lost half its vehicle in this one engagement.



#0708_03 Kalinin - The Northern Attack. Turns : 22
#0708_03a Kalinin - The Northern Attack. Turns : 22
Kalinin, South West of Prokhorovka: July 8th, 1943. (Scenario Size: Corps. Head to Head or Team Play) Major General Andrei Grigorevich Kravchenko's 5th Guards Tank Corps was to go back into action less than 12 hours after having to free its forces from encirclement. The order to retake the area around Kalinin and Ozerovskii was only received at 2am and stipulated that the attack was to commence no later than 10am. Once these two villages were taken, the Guards were to continue pushing west to Luchki North and cut the highway and block the German supplies required further to the north. Kravchenko was assured that both 2nd Guards to the south and the arriving 2nd Tank Corps to the north would be ready to commence operations in tandem with his own forces. The late arrival of 2nd Tank Corps was to leave Kravchenko sorely disappointed. This version of the scenario includes the available forces from 2nd & 10th Tank Corps as well as 5th Guards. 2nd Tank Corps will begin their advance from 2pm.



#0708_04 Kalinin Small - Kravchenko's Riposte. Turns : 15
#0708_04a Kalinin Small - Kravchenko's Riposte. Turns : 15
Kalinin, South West of Prokhorovka: July 8th, 1943. (Scenario Size: Corps. Head to Head) Major General Andrei Grigorevich Kravchenko's 5th Guards Tank Corps was to go back into action less than 12 hours after having to free its forces from encirclement. The order to retake the area around Kalinin and Ozerovskii was only received at 2am and stipulated that the attack was to commence no later than 10am. Once these two villages were taken, the Guards were to continue pushing west to Luchki North and cut the highway and block the German supplies required further to the north. Kravchenko was assured that both 2nd Guards to the south and the arriving 2nd Tank Corps to the north would be ready to commence operations in tandem with his own forces. The late arrival of 2nd Tank Corps was to leave Kravchenko sorely disappointed. This version of the scenario is smaller and only includes the available forces from 5th Guards Tank Corps.



#0708_05 Teterevino South - Human Wave. Turns : 15
Teterevino South, South of Prokhorovka: July 8th, 1943. (Scenario Size: Regiment. Soviet Human vs German AI) Major Mikhail Konstantinovich Belov had been given very clear orders. His 158th Guards Rifle Regiment had regrouped at Tetrevino South and was to attack Luchki South from the East. Voronezh Front intended this to be a diversionary attack, hopefully pinning or dragging away reserves from other parts of the German line. The assault would not be easy. The Guardsmen had to cross a deep, kilometre wide valley before assaulting the defenders on Hill 210.7. After breaking through they were to move towards the town and capture the bridge crossing the Donets and clear the town of any remaining enemy. Voronezh Front had provided both air and artillery support in the hope that the attack would be considered a major thrust rather than the intended demonstration. Russian players note - Don't forget to use smoke when crossing exposed areas.



#0708_06 Gostishchevo - 2nd Guards Tank Corps Attacks. Turns : 22
#0708_06a Gostishchevo - 2nd Guards Tank Corps Attacks. Turns : 22
Gostishchevo, South of Prokhorovka: July 8th, 1943. (Scenario Size: Corps. Head to Head) The 167th Infanterie Division was late. The 315th & 331st Infanterie Regiments were due to relieve Totenkopf at first light taking over its defensive sector. Totenkopf was expected to lead the renewed SS attack towards Prokhorovka the following day. For Major General Aleksei Semenovich Burdeiny, the attack of his 2nd Guards Tank Corps might unknowingly fall on the Germans at a time of greatest weakness - rotation of units. The delayed arrival of 167th Infantrie just avoided that risk. The attack by 2nd Guards Tank Corps was accompanied by a regiment from 89th Guards Rifle Division. The attack was initially successful with the Soviets almost reaching their ultimate goal of Genki, but the appearance of Totenkopf's Panzer Regiment ultimately resulted in the Soviets being pushed back. This engagement was also the first time that the HS-129 tank destroyer aircraft were used en-masse and they were attributed with severely disrupting two of the three attacking Guards Tank brigades.

3-el concurso se sabra el ganador un poco antes de la salida del juego:

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"On current time lines, I expect that we will announce the winner(s) for this Blitz competition this weekend. Before you get your hopes up, this WILL precede release but not by much."

4-los obstaculos de alambre de espino funcionaran de una manera totalmente nueva, a saber, para entrar en ellos se consumiran todos los puntos de accion asi que nada de llegar por los pelos y entrar, ademas, no existira el estado atravesado como en PzC, esto significa que las unidades necesitaran usar todos sus puntos para entrar en estos hexagonos aunque no sean las primeras en hacerlo y por ultimo SOLO las unidades de ingenieros podran eliminarlos.

Para las minas es parecido, se consume 1/3 de los puntos al entrar en ellos, no tienen estado de atravesados, como en PzC se necesita una unidad con habilidad de minas para quitarlos y algo que no me quedo muy claro... al entrar en uno se sufren bajas pero ponen esto "Casualties will be determined both on entering and leaving the hex" por lo que entiendo que tambien al salir de uno se sufriran bajas

5-Imagen del escenario anteriormente listado el segundo creo.

#0708_02 Teterevino North - Franz's Excellent Adventure. Turns : 8

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Y bueno, que apartir de hoy 10 dias como mucho hasta la salida del juego, voy a comprar acciones de farmaceuticas especializadas en la venta de calmantes

[pailleterie]

Por lo que veo hay escenarios hasta nivel de cuerpo una escala a la que no hay practicamente juagos salvo los escenarios pequeños de pc pero no a este detalle. Me gusta la estetica d elas fichas, el juego tiene pinta de ser lo más innovador que ha sacado Tiller en muchos años.

[CM]

...que apartir de hoy 10 dias como mucho hasta la salida del juego...

[Piteas]

Bien, bien, menudo mes: El BA2, este de tito Tiller, el de Stalingrado... uf!
Que no pare la VISA