The Red Pill - Bye bye Harpoon?

[Dimitris]

Nice to see you here Dimitris.

Likewise!

[Iosef]

Now I like you in FB.

Better to follow the game advance.

[Ronin]

A este ritmo fundamos un organismo supranacional

Hello Dimitri, i dont speak english, i only read english, but with some difficult. Sorry

Hola Dimitri, yo no hablo ingles, solo lo leo, pero con alguna dificultad. Lo siento

Que los españoles lo pongan bilingue que los que no hablamos ingles no nos enteramos

[Dimitris]

sorry dimitris didnt know there are snglish spoken ppl here. im sorry!

No need for apologies; I'm the foreigner here

[Dimitris]

I should remind that we continue to solicit DB requests & updates (this of course will also continue long after the release), so everyone is welcome to submit his favorite platform for inclusion, just as long as we can find enough info for it.

As an example I just received from one of our DB people the following updates:
* Radar/ESM for Swedish surface combatants
* Updates & additions to Polish ships/subs
* USNS Spearhead (JHSV-1)
* LRASM-A
* All Klub variants (incl. the terminal-supersonic one)
* U-2S Syers-2 /2a multispectral camera upgrades
* Shenyang J-31
* Aircraft fuel consumption fixes
* Certain targeting pods should be air-to-air capable
* Propulsion stats validation check
* Babur cruise missile and TEL
* Shaheen II/HatfVI SRBM
* Nuclear warhead to Shaheen I missile
* Pakistani SPADA 2000 SAM systems

[razanon]

superb work friend, go ahead with these efforts that game sounds amazing!

[lecrop]

Hi guys,

Don't despair just yet

Very soon you will see the official announcement from our publisher and we will be able to offer many more details about the game, the release schedule and the features that will be included on the initial release - plus those that will be incorporated later.

Thanks for the patience

Welcome to PdL Dimitris, waiting eagerly for Command

[Iosef]

I should remind that we continue to solicit DB requests & updates (this of course will also continue long after the release), so everyone is welcome to submit his favorite platform for inclusion, just as long as we can find enough info for it.

As an example I just received from one of our DB people the following updates:
* Radar/ESM for Swedish surface combatants
* Updates & additions to Polish ships/subs
* USNS Spearhead (JHSV-1)
* LRASM-A
* All Klub variants (incl. the terminal-supersonic one)
* U-2S Syers-2 /2a multispectral camera upgrades
* Shenyang J-31
* Aircraft fuel consumption fixes
* Certain targeting pods should be air-to-air capable
* Propulsion stats validation check
* Babur cruise missile and TEL
* Shaheen II/HatfVI SRBM
* Nuclear warhead to Shaheen I missile
* Pakistani SPADA 2000 SAM systems

You have all sensors/weapons/platforms of spanish navy/air force included ??

[Dimitris]

This is what we currently have for Spain:

Aircraft
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A.400M Grizzly -- Spain (Air Force), 27x
AB.204B ASW -- Spain (Navy), 1965
AB.212 ASW -- Spain (Navy), 1974
AB.212 ASW -- Spain (Navy), 1976, Agusta-Bell
AB.212 ASW -- Spain (Navy), 1984, Agusta-Bell
AB.212 ASW -- Spain (Navy), 2003, Agusta-Bell
AB.212 Colibri EW -- Spain (Navy), Agusta-Bell, 4x
AH-1G Cobra -- Spain (Army), 1972
AV-8B Harrier II [Day-Only] -- Spain (Navy), 1989
AV-8B Harrier II+ [Night Attack] -- Spain (Navy), 1997
AV-8B Harrier II+ [Night Attack] -- Spain (Navy), 2002
AV-8S Harrier -- Spain (Navy)
AV-8S Harrier -- Spain (Navy), 1975
AV-8S Harrier -- Spain (Navy), 1988-1996
Bell 47 Sioux -- Spain (Army), 1972
Bo-105C -- Spain (Army)
C-101EB-01 Aviojet [E-25 Mirlo] -- Spain (Air Force), 1980, Aviojet
C-130H Hercules -- Spain (Air Force), 1972
C-212-200 Aviocar [D.3B] -- Spain (Air Force)
C-47 Dakota -- Spain (Air Force), 1943-1978
C-54 Skymaster -- Spain (Air Force), 1959-1976
CASA He 111H-1 -- Spain (Air Force), 1953-1976
CH-47C Chinook -- Spain (Army), 1973
CN-235-100 -- Spain (Air Force), 1988
CN-235MPA Persuader -- Spain (National Guard), 2009, 4x, Guardia Civil
EF2000 Eurofighter Typhoon -- Spain (Air Force), 2007
F.27 Maritime -- Spain (Navy)
F/A-18A Hornet -- Spain (Air Force), 1987
F/A-18A Hornet -- Spain (Air Force), 1993, A+ Upgrade
F/A-18A Hornet -- Spain (Air Force), 2000, A+ Upgrade
F/A-18A Hornet -- Spain (Air Force), 2002, A+ Upgrade
F/A-18A Hornet -- Spain (Air Force), 2009, A+ Upgrade
F-104G Starfighter -- Spain (Air Force), 1965
F-4C Phantom II -- Spain (Air Force), 1971
F-4C Phantom II -- Spain (Air Force), 1976-1988
F-5A Freedom Fighter -- Spain (Air Force), 1978-1988
F-86F Sabre -- Spain (Air Force), 1954-1974
Falcon 20C ECM [TM.11] -- Spain (Air Force)
KC-130H Hercules -- Spain (Air Force)
MD-500M/ASW Defender -- Spain (Navy)
MD-500M/ASW Defender -- Spain (Navy), 1972
MD-500M/ASW Defender -- Spain (Navy), 1991-1995
Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-6 -- Spain (Air Force), 1944-1958
Mirage F.1CE -- Spain (Air Force), 1973-1976
Mirage F.1CE -- Spain (Air Force), 1976
Mirage F.1CE -- Spain (Air Force), 1977, 45x, Attack
Mirage F.1CE -- Spain (Air Force), 1987-2000, 22x, Fighter, Upgraded to F.1M std
Mirage F.1EE -- Spain (Air Force), 1977
Mirage F.1EE -- Spain (Air Force), 1982, Upgraded to F.1M std
Mirage F.1EE -- Spain (Air Force), 1987-2000
Mirage F.1M -- Spain (Air Force), 2000, 48x
Mirage IIIEE -- Spain (Air Force), 1965-1975
Mirage IIIEE -- Spain (Air Force), 1975
Mirage IIIEE -- Spain (Air Force), 1978
Mirage IIIEE -- Spain (Air Force), 1987-1991
NH90 TTH -- Spain (Army), 2011, 45x
OH-58A Kiowa -- Spain (Army), 1974
P-3A Orion -- Spain (Navy)
P-3A Orion -- Spain (Navy), 1973
P-3A Orion -- Spain (Navy), 1984-1998
P-3B Orion -- Spain (Navy), 1989
P-3B Orion -- Spain (Navy), 2003
RF-4C Phantom -- Spain (Air Force), 1976
RF-4C Phantom II -- Spain (Air Force), 1972-2001
S-70B-1 Seahawk [HS.23] -- Spain (Navy), 1988
S-70B-1 Seahawk [HS.23] -- Spain (Navy), 2003
SF-5A Freedom Fighter -- Spain (Air Force), 1969
SH-3D Sea King -- Spain (Navy), 1967
SH-3D Sea King -- Spain (Navy), 1975
SH-3D Sea King -- Spain (Navy), 1991
SH-3H Sea King -- Spain (Navy), 1967
SH-3H Sea King [HS.9] -- Spain (Navy), 1981, 8x
SH-3H Sea King [HS.9] -- Spain (Navy), 1984, 8x
SH-3H Sea King [HS.9] -- Spain (Navy), 1996-2002
SH-3H(AEW) Sea King -- Spain (Navy), 1985
SH-3W Sea King AEW -- Spain (Navy), 1989, 3x
SHU-16B Albatross -- Spain (Navy), 1954-1978
UH-19D (H-19D) Chickasaw -- Spain (Army), 1958-1976
UH-1B Huey -- Spain (Army), 1967
UH-1C Huey -- Spain (Army), 1962
UH-1H Huey -- Spain (Army), 1973

Ships
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A 14 Patino -- Spain (Navy), 1995
C 01 Mendez Nunez -- Spain (Navy), 1945-1963
C 21 Canarias -- Spain (Navy), 1936-1975
D 23 Alava Class -- Spain (Navy), 1950-1975
D 24 Fletcher Class -- Spain (Navy), 1957
D 31 Audaz Class -- Spain (Navy), 1953-1975
D 41 Oquendo -- Spain (Navy), 1960-1978
D 42 Roger De Lauria -- Spain (Navy), 1969
D 43 Marques De La Enseneda -- Spain (Navy), 1970
D 61 Gearing FRAM 1 -- Spain (Navy), 1972
F 101 Alvaro De Bazan -- Spain (Navy), 2003
F 101 Alvaro De Bazan -- Spain (Navy), 2009
F 11 Jupiter Class -- Spain (Navy), 1937-1977
F 21 Eolo Class -- Spain (Navy), 1942-1972
F 31 Descubierta -- Spain (Navy), 1980
F 31 Descubierta -- Spain (Navy), 1985
F 31 Descubierta -- Spain (Navy), 1992
F 31 Descubierta -- Spain (Navy), 2000-2009
F 31 Descubierta Class -- Spain (Navy), 1974
F 32 Pizarro Class -- Spain (Navy), 1946-1972
F 61 Atrevida Class -- Spain (Navy), 1954
F 71 Baleares -- Spain (Navy), 1980
F 71 Baleares -- Spain (Navy), 1989
F 71 Baleares -- Spain (Navy), 1992
F 72 Baleares Class -- Spain (Navy), 1974
F 81 Santa Maria [Perry] -- Spain (Navy), 1987
F 81 Santa Maria [Perry] -- Spain (Navy), 1994
F 81 Santa Maria [Perry] -- Spain (Navy), 2000
F 81 Santa Maria [Perry] -- Spain (Navy), 2003
F 85 Navarra [Santa Maria Class, Perry] -- Spain (Navy), 1994
F 85 Navarra [Santa Maria Class, Perry] -- Spain (Navy), 2000
F 85 Navarra [Santa Maria Class, Perry] -- Spain (Navy), 2003
L 11 Velasco -- Spain (Navy), 1971
L 12 Martin Alvarez -- Spain (Navy), 1971
L 13 Conde De Venadito -- Spain (Navy), 1972
L 20 Almirante Lobo -- Spain (Navy), 1954
L 31 Galica -- Spain (Navy), 1971
L 51 Galicia [Enforcer] -- Spain (Navy), 1998
L 52 Castilla -- Spain (Navy), 2001
LCM-1E -- Spain (Navy), 2002, 2x + 12x
LCM-8 -- Spain (Navy), 1976-2008
LCT 6 -- Spain (Navy), 1965
LCT 7 -- Spain (Navy), 1965
LCT 8 -- Spain (Navy), 1965
R 01 Dedalo -- Spain (Navy), 1967
R 01 Dedalo [Cabot] -- Spain (Navy), 1983-1988
R 11 Principe de Asturias -- Spain (Navy), 1988
R 11 Principe de Asturias -- Spain (Navy), 1993
R 11 Principe de Asturias -- Spain (Navy), 1997
R 11 Principe de Asturias -- Spain (Navy), 2002
TA 11 Aragon -- Spain (Navy), 1964
TA 21 Castilla -- Spain (Navy), 1965

Submarines
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D 1 Class -- Spain (Navy), 1951
GUPPY IIA Class -- Spain (Navy), 1971
Pluto Plus ROV -- Spain (Navy), CME Class, Mine Disposal Vehicle
S 31 Almirante Garcia De Los Reyes [Fleet Snorkle] -- Spain (Navy), 1959
S 61 Delfin [Daphne] -- Spain (Navy), 1978
S 61 Delfin [Daphne] -- Spain (Navy), 1978
S 61 Delfin [Daphne] -- Spain (Navy), 1983
S 61 Delfin [Daphne] -- Spain (Navy), 1995-2006
S 71 Galerna [Agosta] -- Spain (Navy), 1984
S 71 Galerna [Agosta] -- Spain (Navy), 1995
S 71 Galerna [Agosta] -- Spain (Navy), 2006

Land units
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Armored Plt (M-48A5 MBT)
Radar (AN/FPS-113)
Radar (AN/FPS-90 HF)
Radar (AN/FPS-113) -- Spain (Air Force), AN/FPS-90 HF
Radar (AN/FPS-90 HF) -- Spain (Air Force), 1980, AN/FPS-6
Radar (AN/TPS-70) -- Spain (Air Force)
Radar (RAC-3D) -- Spain (Air Force), 2000, Spada 2000
Radar (RAN-10S Pluto SIR) -- Spain (Air Force), 1988-1999
Radar (RAT-31SL) -- Spain (Air Force), 1996, 4x
Radar (Watchman (T)) -- Spain (Air Force), 1989
SAM Bty (I-HAWK [Baseline]) -- Spain (Air Force), 19XX, 4x Bty
SAM Bty (I-HAWK [P1]) -- Spain (Air Force), 19XX, 4x Bty
SAM Bty (I-HAWK [P2, TAS]) -- Spain (Air Force), 19XX, 4x Bty
SAM Bty (I-HAWK [P3, TAS]) -- Spain (Air Force), 19XX, 4x Bty
SAM Plt (Skyguard [Sparrow, 35mm Oerlikon]) -- Spain (Air Force), 1980-1983, 2x pr Bty, 3x Bty, Toledo
SAM Plt (Spada [Aspide]) -- Spain (Air Force), 1988-1999, 2x + RAN-10S pr Bty, 3x Bty, Toledo
SAM Plt (Spada 2000 [Aspide]) -- Spain (Air Force), 2001, 2x + RAC-3D pr Bty, 3x Bty, Toledo
SAM Plt/2 (NASAMS II) -- Spain (Air Force), 2005, 2x + 1x MSP-500 pr Plt, 2x pr Bty
SAM Plt/2 (Roland 1 [AMX-30]) -- Spain (Army), 1x + 1x Roland 2 pr Plt
SAM Plt/2 (Roland 2 [AMX-30]) -- Spain (Army), 1x + 1x Roland 1 pr Plt
Sensor (MSP-500 [NASAMS]) -- Spain (Air Force), 2005

[Rubeus]

Thank you for the info, Dimitris (looks so good, indeed!!), and welcome to Punta de Lanza!

[PijusMagnificus]

Welcome Dimitris,


Dimitris, impresive the list of platorms for Spain in Command now...eager to see the product sailing....

Impresionante la lista de plataformas para España que tiene ahora Command,
ansioso por ver el producto navegando..

[PijusMagnificus]

Dimitris, I have realized you are missing the latest and biggest ship ever built in Spain for the Spanish Navy, the LHD L61 Juan Carlos I. I would be a pity to not include it in the DB.

http://www.armada.mde.es/ArmadaPortal/p ... n-carlos-i

Me he dado cuenta que falta el último y mayor barco contruido en España para la Armada. Sería una lastima no incluirlo en la DB.

[Dimitris]

Thank you for the info, Dimitris (looks so good, indeed!!), and welcome to Punta de Lanza!

Thanks!

By the way, how do you draw the armored vehicles on your signature picture? I really like the style.

[Iosef]

Actually we have two types of radars in the EVAs (Air surveillance squadrons): Alenia Ratl-31 SA/L (is in the list) and Indra Lanza 3D (i don´t see that) with similar range (450 km)

Future ships?? We are waiting for S-80 AIP subs...

In SAMs missing the Patriot PAC-2

[Dimitris]

Dimitris, I have realized you are missing the latest and biggest ship ever built in Spain for the Spanish Navy, the LHD L61 Juan Carlos I. I would be a pity to not include it in the DB.

http://www.armada.mde.es/ArmadaPortal/p ... n-carlos-i

It's already on our backlog of DB additions. Our DB crew has some questions/comments about it:

Big build. Lots of new sensors that need some serious looking-into, plus it has aircraft facilities and docking facilities.

Also need to ensure that the database contains the helos the ship is supposed to be carrying, and if they're not there, fully implement these. Ditto for LCMs, LCACs, and possibly LCVPs, LCUs or LCVPs; each of these needs to be separately researched and added.

How much aviation fuel does the ship carry?
What's the "Mini-Typhoon" gun? Are these carried alongside Mk38 Mod2?
"Provision for RAM/ESSM and Nixie" means it isn't actually installed, correct?

(When we are adding a unit to the DB we usually need to be fairly certain about its sensors, weapons etc. in order to model it accurately.)